On this episode Vernon & me finally have our long awaited Obama conversation. It happened minutes after Obama's second State of The Union Address and there was much to discuss: Obama & technology, Obama and Michelle, Obama and his new theme music, Obama and Black people, Obama and crazy white people, Obama Now vs. Obama Then. Yup, it's Obama on and on until the break of dawn. (Say that last sentence out loud. It sounds really cool.) And on this episode, Vernon & me also have some special guests in the form of several other of America's "first Black presidents."
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